The voice that John heard in Revelation 10:8 was the same voice he heard from heaven, telling him to seal up what the seven thunders said in reply to the mighty Angel, who swore there would be no delay (Revelation 10:4). It was probably the same voice that he heard in Revelation 4:1, when he was invited into the Throne Room of the Lamb, which, as we have seen, was the Most Holy Place of the Temple.
John was told to go to the mighty Angel who stood upon the sea and the earth and take the little book (Revelation 10:2, 8-4; cf. 5:1), which he had in his left hand. It is interesting that John was not permitted to write down what the seven thunders said in Revelation 10:4, as though John may have been ready to write down his interpretation of what they said (cf. 2Corinthians 12:4). Rather, he was to permit what was said to remain sealed, trusting the word of God from heaven. This reminds one of the case of Agur (Proverbs 30:1-5) who wouldn’t trust in his own wisdom. Understanding divine mysteries is not something we naturally own. Rather, it comes through divine leading and experiencing the hand of God during times of trouble. John obeyed the voice in verse-4 and was then told to take the book, which he would eat and the words in the little book would come out in the form of a prophecy (Revelation 10:9-11).
John went to the mighty Angel and told him to give him the book (Revelation 10:9). The Angel told John to eat the little book,[1] saying it would be as sweet as honey to the taste, but bitter in the belly (cf. Ezekiel 2:8-10; 3:1-11, 14). So, John ate the little book that was open, and in his mouth it was like honey, but in his stomach it was bitter (cf. Ecclesiastes 1:18; Isaiah 28:9).
At this time the Angel told John that he “must prophesy again…” (Revelation 10:11). The word prophesy (G4395 – propheteuo) is used 28 times in the New Covenant Scriptures, but it is used only here and in Revelation 11:3 in the Apocalypse. In chapter 11 the mighty Angel says he will give (authority) to his two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1260 days.
In prophesying John was put “over many peoples, nations, and tongues and kings,” but this doesn’t mean he was placed in political authority over anyone. Rather, it indicates that his words have power over them before God (cf. Jeremiah1:10; Revelation 5:9). Consider how the word “before” (G1909 – epi) is used here, in Revelation 10:11 and for the Great Harlot of Revelation 17:18. There, the harlot ruled or had authority over (G1909 – epi) the kings of the earth. This authority or power has to do with the Lord’s covenantal relationship with mankind, not political authority. In this sense, Jerusalem ‘reigned’ over the nations in that she represented God on earth, having his words and having the responsibility to teach the nations.
The Angel’s command for John to prophesy represented a new covenantal relationship between God and mankind. No longer was God represented by a political nation, but rather a spiritual nation, the church. John was set “over” (G1909 – epi) the nations in the sense that the knowledge of God, as understood by peoples, nations and kings, would come through the church, not a political authority. So, the spread of God’s word and authority would be accomplished not through war or political enterprise, but by beating our swords into plowshares and our spears into pruning hooks, and thereby make disciples of all nations (Matthew 28:19-20), not by conquering nations, but by destroying every stronghold in the minds of men that exalts itself above the authority of God (2Corinthians 10:4-5).
One wonders, then, if John’s prophecy is found in Revelation 11:1-14, where he is commanded to measure the Temple of God, and where he records the ministry of the two witnesses. Instead of John’s prophecy, what we find there seems to be the Angel’s words. So, how are we to understand these things? In the context of John’s eating the little book instead of merely writing down what the Seven Thunders said (Revelation 10:3), we would expect John act out or otherwise reveal those words that were spoken from heaven in some fashion. This would be so, even if John’s prophecy were not recorded in chapter 11.
In other words, whatever the Seven Thunders uttered couldn’t really be sealed in the sense that its meaning was yet for another generation in the future. Rather, John would eventually record the words in such a manner, as to give meaning to something that probably was too difficult to convey with a literal rendering of what he heard the Seven Thunders say (cf. 2Corinthains 12:4). Therefore, whatever John does eventually prophesy would be in response to what the mighty Angel told him to do in Revelation 10:3. Moreover, if all this is true, then, it is also logically so that the Angel’s declaration that “there would be delay no longer” (Revelation 10:6) would be in response to whatever we find later in John’s prophecy.
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[1] Take it and eat it up is a Hebraism for “to receive knowledge” according to The Scriptures Bible notes and The Companion Bible margin notes by E.W. Bullinger (cf. John 6:50-53, 58, 63).
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Greetings Apocalypse 2, and thank you for continuing with me in this discussion. Lord bless you.
Daniel’s final two beasts point to Greece and Rome. I will mention them in my post about the dragon in about 3 days. I’ll be posting about the beasts mentioned in Revelation 13 in about a week or three, depending upon the particular beast of interest. I’ll have all my posts about those beasts published in a month. I do not take the position you do, however. I have the first beast highly influenced by all four of Daniel’s beasts (Daniel 7). Notice that the beast of Revelation 13 doesn’t comprise the whole of any beast in Daniel 7 but incorporates all of them into a single beast (with seven heads). Therefore, something of each of Daniel’s beasts is seen in it, but Daniel’s beasts stand alone. Each one is an empire by itself. The beast of Revelation 13 isn’t an empire, but it does have world influence. Neither is its power its own. It is held up by another power (its heads working through its horns).
I have Rome and Islam as the final two beasts of Daniel. All four beasts had something to do with the temple. That is what makes them a beast. The ten horns ties the last beast of Daniel to the second beast of John. The horns are dynasties and I name them. The seven heads are dynasties of the Roman Empire also named in my presentation.
Greetings Apocalypse 2 and thank you for your comment. Lord bless you.
The problem with Islam being one of the four kingdoms is that according to the text in Daniel, the vision was for the latter days (Daniel 2:28), viz. the latter days of the Jewish state (Old Covenant), and the Kingdom of God would be set up in the days of the four kingdoms (Daniel 2:44). While there may be a question as to how that points to Babylon, and Greece (Persia and Rome were in existence in the first century AD), the vision must be held to when Rome still existed as an empire, for the Kingdom of God was set up in the first century AD. There seems little doubt that at least the influence of all four empires Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome was still present in the first century, and perhaps that’s how Daniel 2:44 should be understood. However, how could we write in future empires? I believe that goes beyond the meaning of the word of God.
Prophecy deals with the future and that includes Islam which can’t be ignored. Not even by Daniel or John.
Greetings Apocalypse-2, may the Lord bless you as you study his word.
Clearly, Daniel 7 is the basis of Revelation 13, as far as the indicators pointing to identity are concerned–body of a leopard, feet of a bear, mouth of a lion, ten horns etc. all point to Daniel’s four beasts. Daniel 2 puts all four kingdoms in the context of the beginning of the Kingdom of God. Clearly, the Kingdom of God was already established and influencing the kingdoms of this world long before the rise of Islam. Without a clear indicator, Islam has no place in the Apocalypse. You may say it does, but that doesn’t make it so. Scripture will interpret Scripture if one lets it do so. Rome was the final kingdom of the world before the establishment of the Kingdom of God. That puts all the prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse in the first century AD. As I said, you may believe as you please, but Islam is a waste of time, as far as I am concerned.